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Readem · Apr 02, 2009, 11:05 PM // 23:05

This has probably been mentioned prior, but what is your opinion on ganking? It just seems that 3-way maps are overally abused, and take priority over player skill. Am I wrong to think this? Would be removing these maps (or at least make them 1v1) be a viable solution to said problem (supposing it exists?)

iVendetta · Apr 02, 2009, 11:42 PM // 23:42

Gank them before they gank you.

turbo234 · Apr 03, 2009, 12:56 AM // 00:56

vendetta do you even realize what ganking is?
But yeah, I think anet just doesn't have enough people working on guild wars(since most are focused on gw2) to figure out a solution to this. It does suck that people have to go so low as to team up against you, but I'm not sure if just making all matches 1v1 would be the way to go.

laurana half elf · Apr 03, 2009, 01:27 AM // 01:27

don't be an asshole and most people will gank for you if you know them well enough.

Eragon Zarroc · Apr 03, 2009, 01:31 AM // 01:31

it is a viable tactic and u are unfortunate if you are on the wrong side. sorry

iVendetta · Apr 03, 2009, 01:43 AM // 01:43

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Originally Posted by turbo234

vendetta do you even realize what ganking is?

Yes, in fact, I do know what ganking refers to. In case you've misunderstood, I meant whisper a team before the other does.

Zodiac Meteor · Apr 03, 2009, 03:19 AM // 03:19

I'll go to people minds and tel them not to gank, like mathway, a completely capable team that can beat HoH with no problem.

It adds an element to the game.

turbo234 · Apr 03, 2009, 03:30 AM // 03:30

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Originally Posted by iVendetta

Yes, in fact, I do know what ganking refers to. In case you've misunderstood, I meant whisper a team before the other does.

Alot of times just whispering them won't help because if the other teams couldn't beat you alone, they'll team up to take you out. Or if they feel you've been having too good of a run some people will just team up to dethrone you.

Reverend Dr · Apr 03, 2009, 03:51 AM // 03:51

Ganking makes 2 out of 3 teams happy, playing without ganks only makes 1 out of 3 teams happy.

Ciric · Apr 03, 2009, 03:55 AM // 03:55

Ohi Readem Sir

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Anyway, the three way maps are needed because of KotH. There are to many defensive spikes or defensive builds in general that can hold 1 teams at bay easy but can not hold to two teams. Good example of this is r-spike. R-spike will just spike out offense all game and then timer kill ghostly. They can team whipe after that point. This can be done with most builds to a lesser, or in some a greater degree so basically in most situations, cap first = win 1v1 KotH.

Taking out 3v3 would be nice to avoid ganking, however you would have to drop the KotH format, unfortunately it just so happens that the hardest format to get "ganked" on is KotH though it does happen with full team pushed to snare your ghost away, or teams pressing you while you arn't capped. IMO Keep 3v3 king in halls, and only 3v3 king, no relics or cap points. Remove courtyard, and add sacred temples back into rotation, kick anti chamber and 1 UW map from rotation.

Apok Omen · Apr 03, 2009, 04:10 AM // 04:10

Being ganked sucks

Ganking is fun

Being ganked for owns

But hey, that's GW for you. IMO, it would be pretty boring to play in 1v1 matches all the time. 1v1v1 just adds a nice element and the consequences/benefits are expected. If you get ganked, just go back in and gank the team that ganked you when they're holding/trying to win. Always works for me.

Oh, and inb4 "make ganking a /report option"

Kyp Jade · Apr 03, 2009, 06:34 AM // 06:34

I hear pve is a good place for those who cant just hit the enter button after they get ganked

Krill · Apr 03, 2009, 06:55 AM // 06:55

It sucks that the outcome of 3 ways is sometimes beyond your control but not as much as 1v1's suck for every HoH objective. It's just not a good design for relic runs and cap points and KotH is always bad 1v1. Personally I like that aspect of Courtyard and HoH because that's what makes HA different from every other format, even if it results in gayness sometimes. Ganking was only unacceptably bad when Broken Tower was in the rotation and kill count was an HoH objective because one team was virtually guaranteed to be ganked.

Killed u man · Apr 03, 2009, 02:26 PM // 14:26

With ganking happeneing 2 out of the 3 matches in HoH, it is a serious flaw in HoH design.

But after 1+ years of no action, I don't think Anet will get of their lazy ass and try and fix it.

Every knows it already. Ganking is borderline cheating (IF you think it's a valid strategy, abusing an in-game exploit, such as the reconnectd-dupe is a valid strategy aswell, as you're not really using third party software).
It was an unintentional effect of an update, which is getting abused by alot of teams to win/loose in PvP (Makes it the more important), and hence can be concidered an exploit.

As I said, will they fix it? Unlikely, as everyone ganks/gets ganked on a daily basis, and as already getting used to it.

I don't give a shit anymore anyways, as most people have already forgot about the almight borat and the builds he ran 1-3 years ago, so I'm usually not in the line of fire, but rather the 3th team that benefits the other 2 teams ganking.

Do I enjoy getting ganked for? I don't. I came to play PvP, not to get a zkey and a shitty gold drop every 12 minutes with practicly being afk the whole time. I wanna play PvP, not get phree fame or items, I'dd play a farm build in either HA or PvE if I wanted those.

Divinus Stella · Apr 03, 2009, 03:53 PM // 15:53

Without ganking you have the problem of teams holding with insanely gay builds.

Most holding builds can keep a ghost alive against 2 teams for a good length of time, against 1 team you would be able to hold halls aslong as you wanted.

TheHaxor · Apr 03, 2009, 11:04 PM // 23:04

Ganking is awesome even if you get ganked. Why? Just gank them better than they are ganking you to win gank wars.

dr love · Apr 04, 2009, 03:48 AM // 03:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reverend Dr

Ganking makes 2 out of 3 teams happy, playing without ganks only makes 1 out of 3 teams happy.

agreed.

also often when a team comes in that has little chance of winning, i.e. no vent or TS, gimicky build - then ganking looks pretty appealing.

Darth The Xx · Apr 04, 2009, 05:56 AM // 05:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killed u man

With ganking happeneing 2 out of the 3 matches in HoH, it is a serious flaw in HoH design.

But after 1+ years of no action, I don't think Anet will get of their lazy ass and try and fix it.

Every knows it already. Ganking is borderline cheating (IF you think it's a valid strategy, abusing an in-game exploit, such as the reconnectd-dupe is a valid strategy aswell, as you're not really using third party software).
It was an unintentional effect of an update, which is getting abused by alot of teams to win/loose in PvP (Makes it the more important), and hence can be concidered an exploit.

As I said, will they fix it? Unlikely, as everyone ganks/gets ganked on a daily basis, and as already getting used to it.

I don't give a shit anymore anyways, as most people have already forgot about the almight borat and the builds he ran 1-3 years ago, so I'm usually not in the line of fire, but rather the 3th team that benefits the other 2 teams ganking.

Do I enjoy getting ganked for? I don't. I came to play PvP, not to get a zkey and a shitty gold drop every 12 minutes with practicly being afk the whole time. I wanna play PvP, not get phree fame or items, I'dd play a farm build in either HA or PvE if I wanted those.

Ganking is hardly borderline cheating. How else is a 1v1v1 supposed to go? A kills B while B kills C while C kills A? sorry don't see this happening its part of the format, get over it. Doesn't it make far more sense to take an advantage when it arises?

imo it keeps HA flowing, makes it difficult for one team to hold halls so u dont get this monopoly effect.

Vigilante Justice ftw!

shoogi · Apr 04, 2009, 12:10 PM // 12:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killed u man

I don't give a shit anymore anyways, as most people have already forgot about the almight borat and the builds he ran 1-3 years ago, so I'm usually not in the line of fire, but rather the 3th team that benefits the other 2 teams ganking.

TheHaxor · Apr 04, 2009, 04:18 PM // 16:18

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Originally Posted by Killed u man

most people have already forgot about the almight borat

Who? You're talking about the guy that wears the nasty old suit and doesn't afraid of anything, right?